Oh, and lul no this wont stop AWOXing. It also wont stop people joining to completely rob the corps. Though not sure why anyone would try to rob a highsec dweller corp. They are all poor as hell anyways.

Excellent News! I've always thought this would be a good idea to get changed. Sure, there are players who enjoy joining corps and ganking a bunch of people and they won't be able to do that anymore. The thing is that's a small group of people and they undoubtedly like a good many other methods of ganking people in EVE. The upside to the change would be that newer players wanting to become part of the social groups which make EVE what it is will be able to do so with a far greater ease, and without undocking their first ever battleship, getting blown up by their "friends" for no reason beyond "the lulz" and quitting.

Seems that way...

Every PLEX in the system has been purchased for real money, and costs more than your monthly sub.

For example a single PLEX costs -ú16.99 in the UK, a monthly sub costs -ú9.99. Ergo CCP make more money through people paying their sub via PLEX than they do from people paying their sub direct.

TL;DR You have no idea what you're talking about.

Ehh.... i do....

Well i sub by paying with real cash and have twice bought and sold a plex for some ingame breathing space.

I'm the Captain of the Noob Team ... nice to make your aquaintance ... hihi

You can bet im pretty much NOT flying anything i cant afford to loose

Agreed that it may not be the main reason people don't join corps, but it certainly is a reason why people have negative experiences once they join a corp and is a huge contributor to many decent corps having security policies which exclude newer players.

The risk reduction is negligible. All it means is that to kill a member of a corp you'll have to use the wardec mechanic as it is designed to be used. Nothing will prevent you awoxing the corp by setting up a kill or providing intel, it's purely the act of avoiding concord by being in the corp that would be removed.

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Evasion as it exists today I'm actually ok with.

"Okay, so what follows is entirely my personal opinion.

It's not a case of not "catering to the tearfilled entitled", it's a case of us staying true to the core of what EVE was built on.

Some of the people complaining in this thread have valid points about the fact that they don't feel safe. Simple fact of the matter is, that you're not suppose to feel safe in New Eden.

Eve is not a game for the faint hearted. It's a game that will chew you up and spit you out in the blink of an eye if you even think about letting your guard down or becoming complacent.

While every other MMO starts off with an intro that tells you you're going to be the savior of the realm, holds your hand, protects you, nurtures your development and ultimately guides you to your destiny as a hero along with several other million players who've had the exact same experience, EVE assaults you from the second you begin to play after you create a character, spitting you out into a universe that under the surface, is so complex that it's enough to make your head explode.

The entire design is based around being harsh, vicious, relentless, hostile and cold. It's about action and reaction, and the story that unfolds as you experience these two things.

True, we're working hard to lower the bar of entry so that more players can enjoy EVE and can get into the game. Our NPE (New Player Experience) is challenging, and we're trying to improve it to better prepare rookies for what lies out there, but when you start to play eve, you'll always start out as the little fish in the big pond.

The only way to grow is to voraciously consume what's around you, and its your choice whether that happens to be New Eden's abundant natural resources, or the other people who're also fighting their way to the top.

EVE is a playing experience like no other, where every action or reaction resonates through a single universe and is felt by players from all corners of the word. There are no shards here, no mirror universes, no instances and very few rules. If you stumble across something valuable, then chances are someone else already knows where you are, or is working their way toward you and you better be prepared to fight for what you've discovered.

EVE will test you from the outset, from the very second you undock and glimpse the stars, and will take pleasure from sorting those who can survive from those who'd rather curl up and perish.

EVE will let you fight until you collapse, then let you struggle to your feet, exhausted from the effort. Then when you can see the light at the end of the tunnel it'll kick you flat on your ass in the mud again and ask you why you deserve to be standing. It'll test you against every other individual playing at some point or another, and it'll ask for answers.

Give it an answer and maybe it'll let you up again, long enough to gather your thoughts. After a few more steps you're on the ground again and it's asking more questions.

EVE is designed to be harsh, it's designed to be challenging, and it's designed to be so deep and complex that it should fascinate and terrify you at the same time.

Corporation, Alliances and coalitions of tens of thousands have risen and fallen on these basic principles, and every one of those thousands of people has their own unique story to tell about how it affected them and what they experienced.

That's the beauty of EVE. Action and reaction. Emergence.

Welcome to the most frightening virtual playground you'll ever experience."

this isnt about that, lets not try and make that the case

I checked The Games Website and, oddly, I do not see them saying that Eve is a Purely PvP game.

Now I will readily admit that it is a game with PvP in it if you will do the same in respect to PvE, because that is also part of the game. Missions, mining, exploration, are things you can do where you compete (maybe) but don't have to shoot some other player.

So where do all the people whose main argument against this change find the ground to stand on . . . that by shifting a rule that made little sense (It is OK to go Postal if you are in a post office and work there) we are somehow moving away from what the game IS. It is like they are the apostles of a religion within the game but I cannot seem to find their holy book or church.

So to some of the points
1) Yes, a well made and good practices corp could slow or catch most awoxers (though not all) and in that respect the game has been made (shudder) easier
b) Yes, free for alls will be harder to run since shooting each other will bring the wrath of concord down on you (pity there is no part of space where this is not true.
iii) I still haven't seen an argument that convinces me to go back to CCP and demand that they 'tear down this wall'
Five) but I do appreciate the level of discourse, here, over some of the other threads I monitor

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Tears... flowing the other way... how strange and beautiful mother nature can be.

Still don't like em tho... too salty.. not sweet at all.

So? .... the FAQ is out of date... right?

So? .... the FAQ is out of date... right?

Don't make me laugh... that's exactly what most people on these forums are... fanatics and zealots.

I also sense a dash of hysterics every now and then...

X-years ago some dungus found a loophole and it got turned into a feature. Now its going cos its contributing to beginning players leaving and tha's costing real money. What is there to understand?

Plenty of room for both playstyles i should say.

You people need to get over yourselves... seriously

So why not remove War Dec's then?

I am sure War Dec's cause a lot more people to stay in NPC Corps and lose more new players then axowing does.

I have never heard of a Corp to fold because of an axower where as according to many people War dec's have and continue to do so.

Why dont you good folks stop with the awesome chitchat? Come up with a few idea's or be out there making stuff better.

How old are you anyway?

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People can play this game any way they want... i think thats why its called a sandbox.

Not everyone is interested in chasing others and pretend they are the cronies of a crazed Sheriff of Nothingham-ish ganker... yelling 'I AM THE LAW'.

Personally i was drawn in by the sheer endless possibilities of gathering materials, producing goods and make my own spaceships. PvP is just a thing others do and it ups the tension a bit, making it more interesting for me and the likes of me.

I played in 2012 for some time and stopped because i got shot in the face at every turn. In between beeing locked up in a station cos of constant wardecs. I dont blame the CEO of that but rather the games inability to grant a somewhat safe way to do my stuff.

I didnt get that so i left. (had a tiny other prob as well but hey...)

And now im back... with a different toon and a different plan.
Seeing the makers of EvE are finally watering the wine a bit so more folks can enjoy this great game, seems a good developement to me.